R for Rambo ([info]zorb) wrote,
@ 2006-02-17 21:44:00
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SG-1: The Scourge

Tonight, I am reminded of John Crichton's words: "Why is it always critters or godlike aliens?" (Paraphrased.)  In this case, it was critters and godlike aliens for a round of, as pretty much everyone has been thinking, Stargate Does Swarmed.  As MotW episodes go, it was decent, although suffering from a gross and widespread misunderstanding of echolocation.  There's a difference between screwing with known science and inventing a fantasy threat - the former irks me, the latter I can handwave.  Add another to the list of blatantly bad science for the sake of plot in Stargate. 

That complaint aside, there was plenty to enjoy in the ep.  I liked the sort of incidental information we've been getting for the past couple of weeks, a sort of "state of the SGC."  We have (er...had) a Gamma site, which I believe is a new factoid.  Daniel does in fact have three doctorates, which was a fanon thing that I totally didn't buy into before.  That's some serious academic stamina.  Other countries are still paying attention, and the silly French representative is still silly and French.  I always enjoy Dr. Lee and Woolsey, too, for very different reasons.

Woolsey was even more entertaining this week for his pre-gate nervousness.  Dude!  A (former) Star Trek doctor having issues with being temporarily dematerialized!  That had to be a shout-out. *glees*  Sam repeatedly smacking him down was also awesome.  I snickered at the geek flirting between Daniel and Shen Xiaoyi (anyone know what they were saying?), but of course, The Sam eventually took her down.1  Daniel's expression of surprise at Cam's language skillz was priceless.  All four of them were downers at some point during this episode, but I would like to adopt Cameron's way of settling arguments.  Teal'c is, once again, the wisest of the team, and I enjoyed his bonding time with Cameron.  Speaking of the team, movie nights!  Yay!

So!  Crap science, contrived situation, nothing particularly plot-advancing...it was a filler episode with only pastede on yay connections to the rest of the season's arc.  I find myself looking more at my computer screen than the TV as it reruns, but there were fun character moments and I enjoyed watching.  They can have a week off from being excellent, since at least they weren't being completely lame.  And hey, it was rife with missing scene and follow-up fic possibility.

1. I realize I have not yet explained The Sam on this journal.  My sister and I have noticed the way that female characters, aside from medical doctors, do not last long on this show, especially when being portrayed sympathetically.  We must conclude the source is a most dangerous entity: The Sam.2  The Sam, you see, does not suffer those who might challenge her dominance of the matriarchy to stick around.  We pinpoint her awakening to "Hathor," when she first got a taste of power.  While since then, she's let the men think they're in charge, really, The Sam could wrest control at any time.  She prefers to keep her methods subtle in order to maintain her control and bides her time before she strikes.  We look forward to seeing how Vala's long-term presence will challenge The Sam.

2. Seriously, we love Sam.  We understand that the source of this phenomenon is a team of male writers and producers who are, historically, pretty crap at writing for women.  Vala was a wonderful surprise.  But it's still funny.


SGA: Coup D'Etat

After two weeks of headdesking pain, my expectations for this show have come back down to realistic levels.  It makes me a lot more tolerant of the stupidity and holes in this week's episode.  At first, I was thrilled beyond belief that the Atlanteans had finally learned to be suspicious of a gift horse - but then they still got screwed by someone a lot smarter than they are!  They are but tools to the Genii, and also, apparently crap at maintaining their "Atlantis is gone!" ruse.  It's like that commercial with the guy who has Snickers hair.  Everybody knows!

Good things...my angst at thinking we'd lost Lorne (not twice in two weeks, Sci-Fi Friday, have mercy on us!), my relief at his not-deadness, McKay's fabulous use of hand signals that called back to early SG-1, Shep learning the value of multitasking, Beckett doing his Beckett thing, Ronon feeling slighted to not be on The List. 

Annoying things not yet mentioned...Ladon making a Twain reference (wtf, people), Cowen biting it (what? I like Colm Meany!), an awful lot of things had to go right for the Genii plan(s) to work, and I'm still not sure how I feel about Teyla's new shirt.  Also, dude, why is Weir only offering to heal their sick at the end?  Would it not be wiser to, in addition, kill the problem at the source by helping them develop better shielding?  But maybe that's just me.

Overall, they got played once again, but it was an entertaining ride.  They did a good job dividing up the characters amongst the plot threads, and if bringing them together was a little transparent, it fell into place nicely.  There shall be no headdesking on account of Atlantis tonight.

BSG: The Captain's Hand

This episode was like combining last season's "The Hand of God" and "Colonial Day" together.  On the one hand, we saw Lee having to lead in a position where he's not comfortable, and on the other, political hijinks ahoy.  The halves of the episode weren't totally divorced from each other, but it was enough that I think they wanted to get both of these plot points across and didn't have enough material to stretch them into a full episode each.  Understandable, but it didn't feel rushed, so I think that merging them was a wise choice and made for an engaging episode. 

Even if the Adamas are total bitches.

Is there something about being put in command of Pegasus that makes you crazy?  That's three commanders in a row who were, or became, nuts in some way (by the way, BSG, please to stop cheating by putting deleted scenes in your previouslies).  They do get progressively less insane, so Lee might be safe from the crazy.  Garner was clearly just not cut out for command track.  He was playing at being in charge without the real intuition and judgement to supervise the people side of things in addition to the mechanical, as Lee pointed out.  That was one fast promotion, too - only one episode/month as a Major and we already have a new Commander Adama.  These shifting titles are going to confuse new people.  Anyone want to bet that Lee's new(est) pips are his father's old ones?

Ooo, thought: what happens when/if the Pegasus is destroyed and we're back to a one gunship fleet?  Does Papadama stop being an Admiral and leave us with two Commanders Adama?  I know nothing of military structure aside from what I've seen in fictional contexts, help me.

So speaking of Lee, he and Dualla were cute little horndogs at the beginning, even with the gaping hole in Lee's chest.  It's nice to know that the pilots have a sexilation system.  Lee was walking a fine line on Pegasus, and I was not at all thrilled with him for being such an ass to Starbuck.  Seeing him eventually stick up for her was a relief, and I had to pity his totally clueless attempt to direct the battle.  Jamie Bamber did a great job showing what a fish out of water he was in that setting - I was cheering for him to pull through with the help of Young Hammond for more than just "let's not kill more chararacters now" reasons.  He stepped up when they were totally on their own and earned his new command.  And then he apologized for being a bitch to my girl in a scene that made me all kinds of happy, so he's forgiven.

And while we learned definitively that she wasn't before, now Kara's CAG, fandom.  Start your ficcing!

Meanwhile, back in the fleet, the writers remembered we have other characters in this show.  CALLY!  HI CALLY!  GAIUS!  SIX!  HI!

I suppose the abortion debate had to come up in this show at some point; again, Adamas are bitches!  They were playing with fire on this one.  We, the viewers, have highly contextualized opinions on the issue as it appears in our world, but as was pointed out, the context is totally different for the fleet.  I really hope the fandom at large remembers, as with the torture issue, that the writers are not promoting their own views with the characters' decisions - they're just raising the questions.  It's interesting that the right to choose was a charged issue in the Colonies, too.  As for me, I'm with Roslin's original position emotionally, and I'm not touching the issue beyond that other than to say there's a lot of profanity in my notes about it.

Thankfully, rather than dwelling on morality, the writers pushed the issue as a political tool.  Baltar, I love you, but you are a slimy, sneaky bastard!  Undermining the president at her own press conference under the guise of supporting her!  Tsk.  You are developing into a real threat, too, and I love that.  I like how they're moving the pieces into place for an explosion at the end of the season - you get an inkling of what's coming without any spoilage. 

Other items of love...how it looked like Zarek was talking to himself in the mirror (it did!), Doc Cottle in general, the Billy references (:((), and Six with the slow clap.  Hah!  Much better as an ironic device than a serious one.

But as far as the episode goes?  I agree.  *slow claps*



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[info]photosinensis
2006-02-18 06:25 am UTC (link)
Ah, I still wish Zarek had decided to run. It would have been fun.

But at the same time, Baltar makes a very interesting choice. He's totally insane, but honestly, most people don't know that--just those in contact with him on a regular basis.

I do appreciate the whole usage of the right to chose as a political tool. And while I support a woman's right to chose under our conditions, under those in this show, that's not exactly a luxury that anyone has. However, the Gemineese position is the scary one. Not the "OMG WE NEED TO HAVE BABIES IF WE"RE GOING TO SURVIVE" but the "OMG THE GODs WILL CONDEMN US IF WE LET A WOMAN CHOSE!" The former allows for the situation to change once things don't look so bleak, but the latter makes for a more permanent deprival of rights.

However, I think there are a few people that will have qualms with the fact that the producers chose to remove reproductive choice from the table will alienate some fans.

And those damn Cylons. You've got to love their way of raining on a parade.

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[info]zorb
2006-02-18 07:29 am UTC (link)
Zarek knows better than to try again - he's proven to be a loser once already, plus, his reputation isn't so hot. Baltar's a good bet for the same reasons that Roslin chose him before.

The Geminese position is scary, and thankfully not the one that Roslin took, but I'm still...eh. I feel like they need to put some trust in the civilians to think about the species survival issue for themselves, not mandate it and run into the same issues that make banning abortion a non-solution here.

But I liked how they handled the debate.

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[info]akscully
2006-02-18 07:13 am UTC (link)
BSG has forgone the flashback episode structure for the flashforward. :)) "Hey, it's been a month since I was shot so that's why we're totally sleeping together, right, Dualla? Also, I'm a major. Awesome!" I think it's a bad choice because, as viewers, we just saw Billy get shot last week and Dee was all weepy about it then. Stop frakking around with the timeline plzkthxbai.

Dee and Lee were cute. And Dee is just gorgeous.

I liked that Lee brought up the shooting. I mean, it's one of those things that's always *there* and it's not going to go away, no matter what. S1 Lee would have never brought it up, even with all the yelling but it makes sense that Lee would blurt it out now since he's not so into repressing. But he's still Lee so you can see how much he hurt after he said it and how he wanted to apologize right then.

Personally, I liked how they handled the abortion issue even if the backstory made things a little more confusing for me. It seems like the military has been desegregated gender-wise for a while, which, to me, would mean that the issue of abortion wouldn't be that big of a deal. So much of issue surrounding women in the military deal with their reproductive functions that I got the impression that abortion would be accepted. Unless they have some sort of contraceptive that works 100% of the time or can totally shut down a woman's cycle with absolutely no problems. Of course, I'm basing this off the idea that women can't be fighter pilots in our military since they wouldn't be too keen on pregnant pilots. I may be totally off on that though. :))

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[info]zorb
2006-02-18 07:36 am UTC (link)
This wasn't really flashforward, though - it just happened to start a month after the previous episode. It's not an editing trick so much as a "time passes" situation. I think they needed to move forward in both time and plot rather than get mired in the angst of the past few weeks. I didn't feel like anything we skipped was so important that the viewers couldn't be reasonably expected to follow along.

It's great how Lee's progressed since S1. As you said, he was all about the repression then, but time and circumstance have taken a lot of those inhibitions from him. Fortunately, they've also stopped him from carrying his attitude past the end of the episode. He apologizes! *cheers*

I don't think it was an issue of abortion in the military as it was in the civilian fleet - like you, I assume that they use IUDs or some other form of birth control for the pilots. Roslin mentioned that she'd spent her entire career fighting to protect the right to choose, which indicated to me that military aside, it's still a hot button issue for civilians in this universe.

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[info]somewhatdeluded
2006-02-19 01:44 am UTC (link)
This wasn't really flashforward, though - it just happened to start a month after the previous episode. It's not an editing trick so much as a "time passes" situation. I think they needed to move forward in both time and plot rather than get mired in the angst of the past few weeks. I didn't feel like anything we skipped was so important that the viewers couldn't be reasonably expected to follow along.

Agreed, but I still have problems with the way BSG handles time, though. Love the way the entire first hunk of the show (all of first season? most of first season?) takes place over the course of a month, and then since then we've had this huge chunk of time pass, and not in any kind of standard way. It's totally cheating, too, because they're only doing it for the CYLON BEBEHS subplot, and not because anything else actually needs them to advance the plot by that much at a time (you make a good point about the angst in this particular instance, but it doesn't excuse their overall inconsistency). The individual episodes all happen over a space of hours or days, so when they say "oh, and by the way, Sharon now looks like she swallowed a cantalope - wait another few episodes and it will be a watermelon" it just seems very artificial.

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Rank
[info]thomascrown
2006-02-18 08:01 am UTC (link)
I don't know about the BSG universe, but my understanding about how it works in the United States military is this:

An officer who receives a Presidential commission (as most commissions are) retains that rank, regardless of their post; they also retain the title into retirement, so long as they served long enough to qualify for a pension (which is 20 or more years). So basically, William Adama would retain the rank of admiral, regardless of the size of his command.

On the other hand, when someone receives a "war-time" or battlefield commission, that rank may be considered temporary. A famous example of this is George Custard. During the Civil War, Custard rose to the rank of brigadier general (which is about the equivalent of a commander in the BSG universe). However, after the Civil War, the size of the Union Army shrank, and there was no need for so many generals. So, despite an excellent service record, Custard was reduced in rank; when Custard fought at the Battle of the Little Big Horn, he fought as colonel.

So what does this mean for Lee Adama? Unless Laura Roslin makes it official, and should Pegasus be destroyed (and Lee survive), Lee would probably be reduced in rank, most likely back down to major.

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Re: Rank
[info]zorb
2006-02-18 08:03 am UTC (link)
I suspected something like that might happen (or that they'd find some other way to demote Lee if it became necessary). Thanks!

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Re: Rank
[info]joecarnahan
2006-02-18 03:51 pm UTC (link)
This is consistent with what we saw on the Pegasus - Admiral Cain was only commanding one battlestar (before joining Galactica's fleet), but she was still an admiral.

I'm not sure if Lee will be demoted or not. It's a little weird for Lee to outrank Tigh, but it's hard to imagine a good way to demote Lee - Unlike Kara, Lee doesn't break rules and piss people off at every opportunity. Still, Pegasus can't stay around forever, and I have trouble imagining that they will keep Lee out of the cockpit forever, too. So, while it strikes me as too legalistic to make for a good story, they may use the "wartime promotions are temporary" trick after all.

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Re: Rank
[info]asta77
2006-02-18 04:56 pm UTC (link)
I have a hard time imagining the Pegasus will be around forever too. I think they'll eventually run into issues with Lee being seperated from the Galactica crew and also the loss of the ship will once again provide drama for the fleet without access to it's valuable resources. Plus, once back on Galactica, while I think Lee's rank would get bumped back, would Tigh be his superior or would they be equals? That could make for some interesting tension.

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[info]mjryan
2006-02-18 07:44 pm UTC (link)
You know, Baltar has annoyed me from the beginning. The way he was so indecisive and jumpy, how he was always only out to save his ass, the psychotic look in his eyes, the way that no one ever stopped to say to him, "Who the frak are you talking to in the middle of this deserted hall?" But, now that Baltar has actually grown some balls, I kinda miss the other guy! But, this guy is definitly going to make things interesting and more fun.

The Lee/Pegasus storyline was good, but I think what will really impact the rest of the season is the political side of the story. The ramifications of Roslin's decision and Baltar's betrayal make everything so wonderfully complicated and complex. That's what makes this show great. And, it's what will keep me watching through what I view as sub-standard episodes like Black Market.

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[info]zorb
2006-02-18 08:41 pm UTC (link)
Baltar's always been my favorite after Starbuck because of those quirks and flaws, and because he can put his brilliance to both saving the fleet and screwing them over. I find him fascinating because you're never quite sure which way he's going to go, whereas you can pin everyone else's goals down pretty easily. Plus, I think Callis is fantastic. I like this dark turn, too, and am looking forward to seeing how it plays out. I agree with you - the political plot will become the more crucial as we head towards the finale. I don't expect the Pegasus to survive beyond this season, but we'll always have the government - in some form. ;-)

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[info]ar_feiniel_
2006-02-18 08:03 pm UTC (link)
...and I'm still not sure how I feel about Teyla's new shirt.
^^That's funny: my mother immediately noticed the shirt thing - we decided it was an improvment on the turtleneck which was far too frumpy. ;)

Meanwhile, back in the fleet, the writers remembered we have other characters in this show. CALLY! HI CALLY! GAIUS! SIX! HI!
^^thank the gods! Those individual character stories just weren't working out so great.

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[info]zorb
2006-02-18 08:42 pm UTC (link)
I loved "Scar," but I'm glad the ensemble is showing up more again. I forgot to mention Tyrol in my litany, but it was great to see him, too!

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[info]woodface
2006-02-18 09:15 pm UTC (link)
I think Gamma base was established last season? Replicarter went there, no?

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[info]zorb
2006-02-18 09:21 pm UTC (link)
Was it? Okay. I didn't remember hearing it before and thought all that happened at the Beta site, but I am probably wrong.

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[info]woodface
2006-02-18 11:03 pm UTC (link)
Oh wait. *frowns* Maybe I'm mixing up my beta and alpha? *confuzzled*

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